User:Woozle/blog/2011-01-18 2123 Obamacare myth the fifth
<hide> <let name=data index=Title>Obamacare myth #5: Obamacare was forced on America; Americans didn't want it</let> <let name=data index=User>Woozle</let> <let name=data index=TopicsUser></let> <let name=data index=TopicsGlobal>\Obamacare\propaganda\Obamacare myths\government</let> <let name=data index=TextAbove>Apparently many people believe that this reform -- for which many of us campaigned, blogged, or postered -- was forced on us by a government indifferent to our pleas for mercy. Or maybe a small cabal of us forced it on the rest of the country through our insidious back-channel connections to Barack Obama's secret squadron of black-ops mind-control goons.</let><let name=data index=TextBelow>Josh's bus.
So I hope you'll understand if I get a bit sarcastic when I'm told that we didn't want Obamacare and that it was forced on us.
No. We wanted more than we got. We wanted the "public option", which Obama took "off the table" as a concession to Republicans (thanks, guys) -- who then proceeded to unilaterally oppose the watered-down results anyway. (Thanks again.)
I can only conclude that I was somehow brainwashed into thinking that affordable medical care would be a good thing all around -- or perhaps I'm a member of the ruling Liberal Elite and didn't even know it. (This must be what I get for not going to the meetings.)
The bus driver liked our sign, too. Hmm, I can't think what the Liberal Elite is doing letting in riff-raff like that. (Or like your friendly neighborhood Hypertwins, for that matter... I'm not sure I want to be a member of any club that would let in disreputable people like us.)
"Of ten polls conducted just prior to the passage of the bill, three found about equal opposition and support, five found a plurality expressing opposition, and two found a majority expressing opposition."1 In other words, support was a little less than 50-50 -- hardly a majority being steamrollered by a minority. (The same source notes that support for one of the most contentious parts of Obamacare, the "individual mandate", ranged from 56 to 59% when it was mentioned that this would help subsidize those who could not otherwise afford insurance. It also informs us that support for Obamacare overall was well above 50% in the generally less privileged sectors of the population.1a)
"In March 2010 a CNN poll of 1,030 adult Americans probed opinions about the bill and its relative liberalness. It found that 43% of respondents opposed the bill for being too liberal, and 39% supported the bill and 13% opposed it on the grounds that it was not liberal enough.2 The identical question when asked in December 2010 found that 37% opposed the bill for being too liberal, 43% supporting the bill and 13% opposing it on the grounds of being not liberal enough.3"
In other words, 52% of Americans in March 2010 and 56% of Americans in December 2010 wanted at least as much reform as offered by Obamacare.
Repealing it -- at least without installing something as good or better in its place -- would therefore be going against the wishes of more than half of America.
The people who originated the claim that America didn't want this reform are, plain and simple, liars.
1a "support was significantly more likely among ... nonwhites than whites (69% vs. 38%), among people from households with incomes under $50,000 than those from higher-income households (55% vs. 36%)..."
2 http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/22/rel5a.pdf and http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/22/cnn-poll-americans-dont-like-health-care-bill/?fbid=1AOWVNbJBup via Wikipedia -- but note how CNN lumps the "too much" votes in with the "not enough" votes to conclude that "59 percent of those surveyed opposed the bill". It strikes me as a bit of a stretch to interpret wanting more of something as being equivalent to opposing it.
One has to wonder what the results would have been had that question been asked in the earlier polls: how much of that a-bit-more-than-half opposition -- now being framed as support for repealing the reform altogether -- was opposition in the hope of getting something better passed?
- Slide 14 of the "Chartpack" PDF linked from this page (the results of a Kaiser Health Tracking Poll in April 2012) indicates clearly that most people are in favor of the actual provisions of Obamacare. (There's data elsewhere which indicates that approval goes down among people who are aware that the provision named is part of Obamacare.)
- 2012-06-28 Six charts to explain health-care polling is a somewhat easier read
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