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<let name=data index=TextAbove>Apparently many people believe that this reform -- for which many of us campaigned, blogged, or postered -- was forced on us by a government indifferent to our pleas for mercy. Or maybe a small cabal of us forced it on the rest of the country through our insidious back-channel connections to Barack Obama's | <let name=data index=TextAbove>Apparently many people believe that this reform -- for which many of us campaigned, blogged, or postered -- was forced on us by a government indifferent to our pleas for mercy. Or maybe a small cabal of us forced it on the rest of the country through our insidious back-channel connections to Barack Obama's secret squadron of black-ops mind-control goons.</let> | ||
<let name=data index=TextBelow>I' | <let name=data index=TextBelow>[[File:2011-01-21 Healthcare Reform banner P1020905.800pxh.jpg|thumb|left|Obama threatened to take away my guns if I didn't make this sign. Really. It wasn't my idea.]]Here at Hypertwin Manor, we had a hand-made banner in our front yard reading "SUPPORT HEALTHCARE REFORM". I had hung it from a tree with fishing line, and the slightest bit of wind tended to bring it down, so I often found myself picking it off the ground and rehanging it shortly before dawn as we waited for [[Josh]]'s bus. | ||
I can only conclude that I was somehow brainwashed into thinking that affordable medical care would be good | So I hope you'll understand if I get a bit sarcastic when I'm told that we didn't want Obamacare and that it was forced on us. | ||
No. We wanted ''more'' than we got. We wanted the "public option", which Obama took "off the table" as a concession to Republicans (thanks, guys) -- who then proceeded to unilaterally oppose the watered-down results ''anyway''. (Thanks again.) | |||
I can only conclude that I was somehow brainwashed into thinking that affordable medical care would be a good thing all around -- or perhaps I'm a member of the ruling Liberal Elite and didn't even know it. (This must be what I get for not going to the meetings.) | |||
The bus driver liked our sign, too. Hmm, I can't think what the Liberal Elite is doing letting in riff-raff like that. (Or like your friendly neighborhood [[The Hypertwins|Hypertwins]], for that matter... I'm not sure I want to be a member of any club that would let in disreputable people like us.) | The bus driver liked our sign, too. Hmm, I can't think what the Liberal Elite is doing letting in riff-raff like that. (Or like your friendly neighborhood [[The Hypertwins|Hypertwins]], for that matter... I'm not sure I want to be a member of any club that would let in disreputable people like us.) | ||
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But seriously. | But seriously. | ||
[[File:Tiananmen-square-tank.jpg|thumb|Brave US citizen attempting to prevent Obama's secret Afro-Muslim CareTank Squad from brutally imposing unwanted healthcare (on their way back from confiscating everyone's guns) -- where o where was Chuck Norris when we needed him??]] | [[File:Tiananmen-square-tank.jpg|thumb|Brave US citizen attempting to prevent Obama's secret Afro-Muslim CareTank Squad from brutally imposing unwanted healthcare (on their way back from confiscating everyone's guns) -- where o where was Chuck Norris when we needed him??]] | ||
"Of ten polls conducted just prior to the passage of the bill, three found about equal opposition and support, five found a plurality expressing opposition, and two found a majority expressing opposition."{{footnote|1}} In other words, support was | "Of ten polls conducted just prior to the passage of the bill, three found about equal opposition and support, five found a plurality expressing opposition, and two found a majority expressing opposition."{{footnote|1}} In other words, support was a little less than 50-50 -- hardly a majority being steamrollered by a minority. (The same source notes that support for one of the [[User:Woozle/blog/2011-01-14 0507 Obamacare myth the second|most]] [[User:Woozle/blog/2011-01-14 2140 Obamacare myth the third|contentious]] parts of Obamacare, the "individual mandate", ranged from 56 to 59% when it was mentioned that this would help subsidize those who could not otherwise afford insurance. It also informs us that support for Obamacare overall was well above 50% in the generally less privileged sectors of the population.{{footnote|1a}}) | ||
And further: | And further: | ||
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"In March 2010 a CNN poll of 1,030 adult Americans probed opinions about the bill and its relative liberalness. It found that 43% of respondents opposed the bill for being too liberal, and 39% supported the bill and 13% opposed it on the grounds that it was ''not liberal enough''.{{footnote|2}} The identical question when asked in December 2010 found that 37% opposed the bill for being too liberal, 43% supporting the bill and 13% opposing it on the grounds of being not liberal enough.{{footnote|3}}" | "In March 2010 a CNN poll of 1,030 adult Americans probed opinions about the bill and its relative liberalness. It found that 43% of respondents opposed the bill for being too liberal, and 39% supported the bill and 13% opposed it on the grounds that it was ''not liberal enough''.{{footnote|2}} The identical question when asked in December 2010 found that 37% opposed the bill for being too liberal, 43% supporting the bill and 13% opposing it on the grounds of being not liberal enough.{{footnote|3}}" | ||
In other words, 52% of Americans in March 2010 and 56% of Americans in December 2010 wanted ''at least'' as much reform as offered by Obamacare. | |||
Repealing it -- at least without installing something as good or better in its place -- would therefore be going against the wishes of more than half of America. | Repealing it -- at least without installing something as good or better in its place -- would therefore be going against the wishes of more than half of America. | ||
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{{footnote/target|1}} http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1003844 via {{wikipedia|Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Public_opinions_and_views}} | {{footnote/target|1}} http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1003844 via {{wikipedia|Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Public_opinions_and_views}} | ||
{{footnote/target|2}} http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/22/rel5a.pdf and http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/22/cnn-poll-americans-dont-like-health-care-bill/?fbid=1AOWVNbJBup via {{wikipedia|Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Public_opinions_and_views}} -- but note how CNN lumps the "too much" votes in with the "not enough" votes to conclude that "59 percent of those surveyed opposed the bill". It strikes me as a bit of a stretch to interpret ''wanting more'' of something as being equivalent to ''opposing'' it. | {{footnote/target|1a}} "support was significantly more likely among ... nonwhites than whites (69% vs. 38%), among people from households with incomes under $50,000 than those from higher-income households (55% vs. 36%)..." | ||
{{footnote/target|2}} http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/22/rel5a.pdf and http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/22/cnn-poll-americans-dont-like-health-care-bill/?fbid=1AOWVNbJBup via {{wikipedia|Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Public_opinions_and_views}} -- but note how CNN lumps the "too much" votes in with the "not enough" votes to conclude that "59 percent of those surveyed opposed the bill". It strikes me as [[issuepedia:Interpretive framing|a bit of a stretch]] to interpret ''wanting more'' of something as being equivalent to ''opposing'' it. | |||
One wonders what the results would have been had this question been asked in the earlier polls -- how much of that a-bit-more-than-half opposition was real and how much was merely ''framed'' as opposition? | |||
{{footnote/target|3}} http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/12/27/rel17h.pdf via {{wikipedia|Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Public_opinions_and_views}}</let> | {{footnote/target|3}} http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/12/27/rel17h.pdf via {{wikipedia|Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Public_opinions_and_views}}</let> |
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